I shouldn't even bother with this because I'm all of five episodes into the second series of Doctor Who. I don't know what is to come because I've (so far) successfully sheltered myself from spoilers. Of course, I've seen the pictures of the Doctor and Rose on the beach. And I know Rose is not the Doctor's companion in the third series. Conclusions can be drawn, but I don't know the circumstances. God, off-track much? Anyway...

Jason and I watched "The Girl in the Fireplace" last night. I'm ignorant of fandom's response to particular episodes, so I have no idea how this episode went over with the fangirls. Specifically, with the fangirls that 'ship the Doctor and Rose, of which I am wholeheartedly one.

The thing is this. I'm still getting used to the 'new' Doctor. I know David Tennant has been doing this for quite some time now, and he's not new, but he's new to me. I'm still hung up on the first series. So, here I am, all heart-broken over Nine and determined to give Ten a fair go at mending it when episode five happens. And the credits roll with me feeling like Ten has just stepped on my heart instead of mended it.

Spoilers are obviously coming up. Don't read any further if you don't want spoilers for this episode.

I don't mind that the Doctor felt an attract (mental or physical) to Reinette. She was a lovely, strong character, and I really enjoyed her interactions with the Doctor. However, I felt like someone kicked me in the stomach when the Doctor abandoned Rose (not to mention Mickey) to save Reinette. And not only did he abandon them, presumably to die on a spacecraft which is not operational, but he stranded himself in time, giving up everything that makes him who he is. It was as if he weighed all the time spent with Rose and the friendship (questionably love at this point) they had built and threw it away for a woman he had met only minutes (hours?) before.

And then, as I'm sitting there trying to digest things, my little heart says, "Would Nine have done that?" And I actually give it some thought. Would he have? We can never know for sure, but I don't see that in his character. He agonized over several instances when he had to put Rose's life in danger. He even freed a Dalek in an attempt to save her life. And leaving Rose on an abandoned spacecraft is, in my eyes, leaving her for dead. So, I immediately cling to Nine, and Ten loses his best chance at winning my heart.

Oh, I know, we didn't get to see the moment before Ten jumps through the window into Reinette's world. We don't know what he was thinking, how much the necessity of the situation hurt him. We don't know if the taking of Reinette's head would have caused catastrophic consequences in the world, and the Doctor was sacrificing the few to save the many. Whatever. I'm being a girl about this, so deal. However, I will say that Rose's reaction to the Doctor during the entire episode was spot-on. The part was beautifully written and performed.

Anyway, Ten has broken my heart, and I'm running off to fanfic land with Nine. I'm sure it will get better. It has to, really. Ten will redeem himself to me, I'm sure. He must since so many people adore him. Right? Right?
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From: [identity profile] ultimatesilver.livejournal.com


Well, after you commented on my icon post, I decided to browse your journal, and I came across this. I just wanted to say - it's not Ten's character that's gone and stamped all over your shippy heart; it's the writer of tGinF, Steven Moffat. He tends to throw characterization and continuity out the window in favour of his 'glorious plots.' So Ten's not really like that at all. Just thought I'd tell you ;)

[Although I can completely understand wanting to get lost in Nine fic. I'm still stuck in the 2005 era. Nine's my Doctor.]

From: [identity profile] anogete.livejournal.com


Oh, thank you for telling me this! I want to like Ten, but that episode just threw me off. Damn these writers and their egos. A television program should not cause so much angst in me, but I'm emotionally invested.

From: [identity profile] fishchick.livejournal.com


From what I gather, most people that ship the Doctor/Rose hate that episode. Their hatred apparently extended even to the actress that played Reinette, because she and David Tennant dated IRL.

I must say that I quite like that episode, and all the episodes that Steven Moffat has written. (In fact, he is going to replace Russell Davies as the head whatever-it-is when Dr Who starts filming again.) However, I have watched Dr Who for over ten years, and so I think I have a different frame of reference than some fans. Companions were never love interests... in fact, many of them weren't even girls.

My husband grew up watching Dr Who (and is the reason that I started watching the old episodes when we met), and he won't even watch the new series. He says they're soap operas instead of a sci-fi show.

From: [identity profile] anogete.livejournal.com


I've seen several of the older episodes, mostly the ones with Tom Baker, and I enjoyed them. Jason is on a mission to sort out the best ones for rental from Netflix.

Anyway, romantic interest aside, I thought it was out-of-character for the Doctor to just hop off and abandon Rose and Mickey on a spacecraft that had no means of moving, especially when neither of them could control the TARDIS to leave. It was just... odd and rather off-putting.

I didn't hate Reinette. I actually liked her a great deal. I thought she was a very good character--smart, witty, brave, assertive, etc. I did think the attraction between her and the Doctor was slightly forced and rather quick, specifically on the Doctor's behalf since he had known her for all of a few minutes. And I'm not saying that as a Doctor/Rose 'shipper because my 'shipiness for those two only extends to Nine, not Ten. I just thought some of the actions of the Doctor in that episode flew against the character they had established in the previous episodes.
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